Saturday, February 12, 2011

Why I believe the christian god is not real

     There was a time when I could easily have been brought to believe in the supposed reality of the christian god. He would only have had to show up. Had a spiritual being manifested himself in my presence, I would not have been inclined to ask questions. That’s no longer true today. I have become more suspicious and would want to check against the possibility of an imposter. Also, I have become convinced that the christian god in particular is not real.
     Face-to-face communication is always the most persuasive. If you want to reach someone, you do it face-to-face unless there is some compelling reason why you cannot do so. For example, I type this in advance because I need to compose my thoughts. But the more indirect a communication is, the less believable it is. A being who could supposedly speak the world into existence could certainly take some time to sit down with each person individually and give any message that he wished. But he has never sat down with me. It’s not even a "no second chances" concept. There was never a first chance. And the claims made by proselytizing christians don’t even pass the smell test. They will claim that the bible is "god's personal letter to you." As a point of fact, if you give the same letter to thousands of people, it is not a personal letter, it is a form letter.
     And what is the reason this god doesn't show up individually? I have asked before if he is just too busy these days. Interestingly, that would be an acceptable justification -- if incompatible with the other claims made for this being. But I get excuses like "he doesn't want to force people to believe in him" and "he showed up thousands of years ago; that was the opportunity." These are not persuasive to me. At best, it suggests a god who is playing games. But it's more likely that he never showed up to anybody. The writing claiming that he did is fictional. Bluntly put, if the biblical god were real, there would be no need for the bible.


Stormbringer said...

"Here God! Come here, boy! Jump through the hoop! Please me!"

The Creator of the universe is supposed to do things your way. What insufferable arrogance you continue to exhibit!

Pvblivs said...

     Hello, Norman. Now would you like to try to dispute any of the points that I have made? Perhaps you are of the opinion that form letters are more reliable than face-to-face communication? But, quite frankly, if he deliberately give the appearance that he is not there, he should not be upset when I reach the conclusion that he is not there.

Stormbringer said...

Two Horns One Tail! Glad to see you made it! This clown hates me almost as much as you do, but with much less flair and much less erotic obsession.

Dax said...

Don't tell me to prove I don't believe in god. I don't.I don't care. I'm to busy taking care of needy people.If you were doing what you say you are supposed to your rash wouldn't be so bad.
stormy .So sad.

Pvblivs said...


     You have been told what will happen to snark. If you feel like leaving a productive comment, however, I will leave it up.

Stormbringer said...

Where did my buddy Two Horns One Tail go? He had a comment, now it's gone. Did he remove it? He's deleted comments from my site before, so it's not impossible.

Rhomphaia (Sword) said...

Dear PBS,

If God showed up personally, it would kill you.

The Bible says that no man has seen Him and lived.

He does not want you dead- not until you will LIVE with Him forever.

If He did that for you, it would also violate the order of His Word, which He cannot do since He is His Word...

But you are 100% right about testing the spirits to see if they be of God. Satan presents himself as an angel of light PBS.

He loves to imitate God and trick more people away from serving God.

RKBentley said...

God became flesh and dwelt among and we beheld His glory (John 1:14). He told us that He is the way, truth, and life and no one comes to the Father by by Him (John 14:6). He proved His authority by performing many miracles (John 3:2). Yet still there were people who heard His words and witnessed His miracles but still didn't believe in Him (John 12:27).

You say that you would have believed if God had appeared to you personally. I suspect that even then you still would not.

God did come to earth and reveal Himself in the Person of the Son. He gave His life as the payment for our sins. He promised eternal life to all who believe. What more can He do? Do you honestly expect Him to appear every couple of years just as reminder?

Pvblivs said...

     "You say that you would have believed if God had appeared to you personally. I suspect that even then you still would not."
     At one time, I would have. Even I was an impressionable child once.
     "God did come to earth and reveal [h]imself in the [p]erson of the [s]on. He gave [h]is life as the payment for our sins. He promised eternal life to all who believe."
     I am not able to confirm any of this to be the case.